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November 16, 2010


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Vijay Dandapani

"In due course they developed a hubris and belief in their innate superiority". You have not elaborated on whether or not they retain those beliefs today! I think we all know the answer - Raghu?

Nice work Appa - look forward to the next installment.


Agreed wholeheartedly with Vijay's comments on Raghu.
Thanks for this lovely education.


Really excellent, Appa.


Liked the Mercedes-BMW analogy. BMWs are less reliable: does this reflect brahminical reality?!


For a family that claims to be above these things, you all are heavily obsessed I must say!


Lovely Thath! And thanks very much for the dedication!

I particularly liked the reclining and peaceful Vishnu contrasted with the agitated-and-in-perpetual-motion Shiva; perhaps this is why some of us like to spend our mornings firmly tucked between the sheets while some of our friends (who shall go unnamed) like to get up at 4:30am and go straight to the gym to pound the treadmill into submission.

To Vijay and Prema: A belief in superiority when accompanied by supporting empirical evidence tends to not only survive but strengthen. Given the evidence of the last several hundred years, the answer to Vijay's question is obvious, is it not?


With due respect professor Sundaram:

Why does every research / data analysis display a prominent disclaimer: past performance is no proof of the future. Read the "Black Swan" (past beliefs mean nothing).
I would not rest the case for equality, nay superiority of the Iyers: take a look at recent Nobel Laureates.
I love Kamini's comment - the domain of Iyengars is supine.

Gowri Mohanakrishnan

Waiting for the next instalment of this very interesting read!!


All Iyers are at the perfect zone having reached the top ---sort of steady state.
Hence the horizontal
Poor Iyengars are always trying to reach this zone and not quite making it!
Hence the obvious vertical.......
But I think Raghu....if Iyengars try long enough and hard enough may be
one day it could happen..........Venkat.

Raji Muthukrishnan

Very interesting read.I liked the battle of the namams on the two cars very much!


Actually Iyers use more Iyengars Nama (Name). You can see ( rather hear ) many srivasan , Padmanaban , venketesan in Iyers but not a single Subramani or Mahadeva Iyengar.

On a humours vein my friend says ( English teacher) I Iyer Iyengar(superlative)


i started with part 2 and then did part 2, the perfect திருவாழத்தான்

found the adulations from the family awesome. good stuff. will visit more of your postings .... thanks

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Hats off namams (both horizontal and vertical) on for some great stuff!


I am a firm believer of one almighty who has no vertical or horizontal rules. This is my personal opinion and not casting any slur on any body's opinions /beliefs. Please do not mistake my follg.statement which is my personal opinion :
Hindu religion believes in THRIMUTHIS Brahma the creator, Vishnu the saviour, and finally the Eeswara the Destroyer. Likewise the mans existence comes from birth, survivial and finally the death. Ultimately the death is connected to LORD SHIVA (Unfortunately). When I refer this article I observed that shaivaites and vaishnavaites fought with each other prolaiming their superiority over others. MAY BE the origin of this clash hails from the above BIRTH SURVIVAL & DEATH. Shiva llves in Rudra Bhoomi (Burial Ground) and is also branded as destoryer though he is GOD and SPIRIT by himself. While VIshnu is a saviour even to SHIVA from Brahmasura etc., Shiva is "Bhakth Sulabha" (easy to please) while vishnu is not treated as so and is difficult to please. All Rakshasas followed and meditated Shiva and shiva was always givingthem boons to them and landed himself into troubles when Vishnu saved him. May be for these reasons the Vaishnavaites felt they are suprior while Shiva is also equally powerful and was named as "THATPURUSHAYA" ( MANLY ). I have lineage of Vaishnavite mother and Shavaite Father and I adore both the GODS and I treat them with equal devotion and respect. No offence meant for anybody this is only a pure prsonal opinion.
I repeatthat Hinduism is Great in the world.


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